Reza: "And then, it was the first time we had Indonesian food in Kassel. We had Verena to be in the majelis. She was the first to involve in management. We watch chelsea football match in Bosphorus.
Gertrude: Then we had a press conference in Goethe Institute. The discussion is on what is documenta and why they select ruangrupa. The venue was confirmed in June 2019, the ruruhaus.